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Recent comments
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Out of Left Field: Election results a mixed bag
3 days 23 hours ago
With STV dead and gone maybe reform of referendums might provide more depth to democracy and participation.
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Out of Left Field: Election results a mixed bag
4 days 3 hours ago
A tiny detail on the double majority, it is not 60%, it is "more than 50%". The real catch, however, is that this percentage is calculated on "the total number of registered voters in British Columbia", and the double majority aspect requires that "more than 50% of registered voters for each of at least 2/3 of the electoral districts in British Columbia" vote in favour of an initiative.
If that standard - more than 50% of registered voters for each of at least 2/3 of the electoral districts - were to be applied to form a majority government, we would never again see a majority government in this province.
That statute is a farce, a cynical and malicious one at that.
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Out of Left Field: Election results a mixed bag
4 days 4 hours ago
Andre, the goverment pulled a fast one on the "HST" referendum by ignoring the 60% double majority any government requires for a referendum.
STV was lost through by the misinformation campaign run by the "NO" side and Bill Tieleman. Tieleman convince everyone they couldn't understand arithmethic.
Tieleman is NDP progeny.
The only party that chose a position during STV were the Greens. Their endorsement probably didn't help: characterising STV as a fringe cause.
STV would was been a huge improvement. Sad. -
EDITORIAL: Vote tomorrow!!...if you really must
4 days 6 hours ago
Thanks, David. I'd like to add that our current mayor and councillors might well pass the vetting process you mention. Most people who run at the municipal level are just trying to be good citizens and take a lot of flack (much of it from the Telegraph here in Rossland!).
But I agree that we'd all benefit from the widest array of candidates possible.--ed.
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YRB calls for potential snow warning for Kootenay Pass
4 days 17 hours ago
I have a picture that I took on Kirkup early May. It is a single set of ski tracks dissappearing towards the top of Kirkup. It is obvious from the tracks that there was about 50 cm of beautiful snow. When I looked back at the date of that picture I could see that I made those tracks in May.
Pitty that I can't attach it here
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EDITORIAL: Vote tomorrow!!...if you really must
4 days 17 hours ago
I much agree Adrian.
There are many problems with the system, and I think the primary one is the way our "leaders" are chosen.
As in every riding, there are a few deidicated souls, some sincere, some for ulterior motives, who join a particular local party, who then chose a leader among themselves.
Then we are left to choose from one of those selected by each party.
Doesn't makes sense. Like I always say, there are elected officials, and then there are community leaders.
It's normal in any community for certain people to gain the respect of the others, and the community would normally accept assigning them certain responsibiltieis on behalf of the others.
But in our current "democracy" we have no system for moving those people respected by the community into positions of authority.
Instead, we have a few people who feel entitled to self-appoint themselves to run for office. In very rare cases, that's a good thing. But most of the time, those candicates have only been vetted by the handful in their own party, not the community as a whole.
I think it's time we reinvented the process by which we choose who will represent us.
I think to start with, for the next municipal election in Rossland, we should gather committees that would make proposals of who they consider most qualitfied for City Council, and ask them to run.
I firmly believe that most often, the best people to represent others tend to be too humble to step forward. And that's a good quality.
It should be the community's job to make our choice known to a certain candidate, and encourage them to run on our behalf.
Then the community can come out and vote and confirm which they think are ultimately the best choices.
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Out of Left Field: Election results a mixed bag
5 days 4 hours ago
We had a chance at "a little propoertional representation" and the first time around a clear majority (not a first-past-the-post majority, but nearly 58% of the votes cast) was in support of it.
But the government, elected with 40-some percent of the popular vote, used its parliamentary majority to insist that, for referendum purposes, majority meant not 40% but 60%. So we did not get STV on the first crack. In its benevolence the government gave us a second shot at it and the second time around an overwhelming majority voted to maintain the status quo. And that's what we have today.
We could have changed it, but making a change would have meant trying something new, something different, and that would be ... un-Canadian?
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Out of Left Field: Election results a mixed bag
5 days 6 hours ago
I've got no love for the Liberals—zero—but the map's pretty clear that whoever it was who came out to the polls in BC's rural interior, with the exception of our pocket in the southeast, they were swinging hard for the Liberals. Big, fat, money-grubbing, resource-sucking, democracy-deaf red all over the place...
A little proportional representation would go a long way towards dealing with tiny margins that turn into hefty majorities, and it might inspire more people to vote too.
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Out of Left Field: Election results a mixed bag
5 days 19 hours ago
I'm surprised to see the math and learn that the margin was less than 5%.
What were they in 2009?
My own philosophy is that if the Liberals dont start to acknowledge rural BC, we need to stop sending them money.To win with 50 seats and 30 of them within commute of Stanley Park tells the story. The rest of the province is beyond Hope.
Is it any wonder they don't hear us? They don't need us. We just don't matter.
Perhaps the Kootenays need to become the 11th province and the Northwest coast number 12.
They didn't close any hospitals in Surrey or Abbotsford.
Every time I go to see a doctor in Vancouver, it's like a $1000 tax for living where I do.
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EDITORIAL: Vote tomorrow!!...if you really must
6 days 3 hours ago
Valid points, Sjeng. But how do you square the circle of knowing a candidate based on the policies advocated by the party under whose banner she is running, when that same candidate, after being elected, is free to take a position at odds with that promoted by the party?
An example of that was the dilemma created for the Conservative candidate in the Skeena riding. The Conservative Party supported Enbridge's Northern Gateway project, but their local candidate stated his opposition to it. When questioned by local media, his explanation was that under the policies of his party, elected representatives would have the freedom to represent their constituents when that position is in conflict with the party's stand (I don't know, but I must assume that he was not lying).
So, pro or con Northern Gateway, how does a voter determine which way a vote will be cast on D-Day? How does an elected MLA determine what her constituents want, after the election, if not by referendum?
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EDITORIAL: Vote tomorrow!!...if you really must
6 days 4 hours ago
I expect that if Rousseau was around today he would recognize that political parties can have a useful function in our democracy. We cannot all know our representatives personally, so it helps to identify the kind of policies a candidate will likely support by looking at the political party of which they are a member.
I believe that our democracy is not dysfunctional because of political parties per se, but because of the extreme party discipline our elected members accept from their parties. The discipline is so extreme that the last time a piece of government legislation was defeated in BC was...1953. Members can not represent their ridings under such a system of forced conformism, where party hacks, not the elected representatives, make all voting decisions.
The Green Party around the world share the same set of core principles, but one deeply held belief is that representatives must always put the interests of their constituents first, even if that means going against Green Party policy. So when people vote Green, they know that they vote for someone who believes in a set of humanistic and environmental principles, but they also know that they vote for a representative who will not be subjected to party bullying, a representative who will actually represent..
Agree or disagree, it is a fundamentally different way of doing democracy.
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Liberty, Libertarians, Liberals and Collective Society: Confusing I with We, me with us.
1 week 4 hours ago
"A Corporation has the same legal status as an individual, and that is a serious problem."
That statement, Charles, needs close attention because it does not mean what it says.
The "same legal status" does not imply equality. Corporations do not age, hitting one below the belt does not constitute common assault, and killing one does not amount to murder.
As the 19th century US labour organization "Knights of Labor" warned in its first constitution:
"The alarming development and aggressiveness of great capitalists and corporations, unless checked, will inevitably lead to the pauperization and hopeless degradation of the working masses."
Many in Bangladesh today would agree.
There was a time when powerful politicians recognized the problem. Andrew Jac kson, 7th US President, in his 1837 farewell address:
"... unless you become more watchful in your States and check this spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that the most important powers of Government have been given or bartered away, and the control of your dearest interests have been passed into the hands of these corporations."
Amen! (What response to Jackson's warning is reasonable today?)
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EDITORIAL: Vote tomorrow!!...if you really must
1 week 7 hours ago
That topic is closer to my heart than the best bottle of red wine.
And Adrian is right in his brief overview. The word democracy, in itself, does not say much about a system. There are too many possibilities for people being accountable to themselves for their own governance. Rousseau said it best: it is impossible for all the people to meet all the time to make all the decisions. So we need a compromise to make the idea work. Some compromises, however, distort the philosophical intent to the point of virtually killing the idea itself. It is a bit like the advantage of the triangular wheel as an improvement over the square wheel because it eliminates one bump per revolution.
A democracy built on the British parliamentary system enshrines the idea that people of one belief can have all the right answers to all the questions all the time ... until the next election anyway. It's my way or the highway, as we can see it on the daily basis at the federal level. Try to run a family that way, or bridge club, or any social organization and see how successful you are.
It need not be that way. Take a look at Canada's newest political jurisdiction, Nunvavut: http://www.assembly.nu.ca/ . Here the elected don't face each other in a confrontation, they form a circle. No political parties in Nunavut, just people elected to represent their communities. Cabinet ministers are elected individually by individual members of the legislature. Imagine that in Victoria, or Ottawa for that matter. It works in part because candidates are deprived of a label, they speak from their own experience, their own ideas, their own vision, and their own beliefs. And then they work out a compromise most can live with.
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EDITORIAL: Vote tomorrow!!...if you really must
1 week 20 hours ago
I absolutely respect your right to share your opinion. On most anything I respect your analysis, your dedication and your determination to be part of the change you wish to see.
On this, however, my life history, my personal, familial and social learning, together with my experience as a worker in industry tells me that my vote has made a difference, it does make a difference and it will make a difference.
With all the respect i can muster, the time for sober reflection is long before election day, or night.
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Downtown trash cans and more uncanned, but recanning remains possible
1 week 1 day ago
The Telegraph is so into this, Sebastian toombs, that I can' hardly overstate the matter. Check out this story from 2011...
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Downtown trash cans and more uncanned, but recanning remains possible
1 week 1 day ago
garbage gobblers!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/6743268645_d89f000eba_z.jpg
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COMMENT: Shadowy background to Harper’s war on science revealed
1 week 1 day ago
OBVIOUSLY HARPER IS WILLING TO SELL CANADA AND LEAVE IT'S CITIZENS TO SUCK WIND,WE NEED TO LET HIM KNOW WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF GIVING ALL OUR RESOURCES AWAY AND LEAVING US LOOKING TO THE PAST WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAD A SAY IN MATTERS.
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COMMENT: Why Justin Trudeau may be more dangerous than Stephen Harper
1 week 2 days ago
Sad to see all our media so bought and sold by the corporate lobby.
This article is nothing but blatant fear mongering with nothing but conjecture and fear mongering backing it up.
I'll never vote Liberal, unless it means stopping Harper, who is by far, based wholly on his actions in office, the most dangerous affront to Canada and Canadian democratic process who ever was.
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COMMENT: Why Justin Trudeau may be more dangerous than Stephen Harper
1 week 3 days ago
RIGHT ON ALL CANADIANS SHOULD VOTE FOR HIM AND THE JACK A-S RUINING CANADA. SELL OUT AND GIVE ALL TO CORPORATIONS AND LEAVE NOTHING FOR US. WE NEED TO NATIONALIZE NOT GIVE AWAY OUR RESOURCES.
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ANALYSIS: The elephant in an almost-empty Miners’ Hall
1 week 4 days ago
Had you asked that question, Paul, you would most likely have received the kind of answers I look for in such meetings: answers that give a hint of how a candidate thinks, of how a candidate may respond to as yet unknown future situations. Beware however, the thumbs count on my comment suggests that this may not be a popular approach to candidate selection.
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ANALYSIS: The elephant in an almost-empty Miners’ Hall
1 week 4 days ago
I was one of the 38 people.
I regret that I did not ask a question. I wanted to give ample opportunity to the other participants to aks their questions. I wanted to ask my questions towards the end. However suddenly I heard that the next two questions would be the last ones.
Here is what I did not contribute:
First I wanted to congratulate the four candidates for offering to represent us. This is where democracy really starts. We need people who are ready to do the job. Congratulations to all four of you.
My questions would have been something like: Most of us have read your positions on most topics or we can read them somewhere. What really interests me is What kind of person are you? Could you give us an example of some concrete actions that you have done to improve our area and how they illustrate how you would be an ideal person to promote our area in Victoria?
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LETTER: Speaking up for sustainability
1 week 5 days ago
Hi Tracey-
Thanks for your heartfelt and heartrending email. I remember well all your hard work and physical suffering for Greener Footprints and your incredible success at raising awareness.While there were many engaged community members present tonight in council chambers to argue passionately, as you have done, to maintain the SC mgr as an outside position, the motion to reinstate funding was defeated 4:3. As Councillor Spearn said, she was embarrassed by the decision. Me too. In my opinion, (the mayor likes to insist that I qualify my statements) it was a shortsighted and very biased decision. Visionary or even thougthtful is not a word I would apply to the discussion.
We are faced with looming debt and aging infrastructure its true, but a strategic plan to address these issues creatively will (hopefully) be discussed soon. This drastic cut to the SC could have waited until we formulated an overall plan. In the meantime, the cuts to community groups are mostly symbolic- the groups only represent a small % of our budget and in the big picture these cuts won't have much effect on anything except the groups themselves and the hours of work they do for the community. Not the best way to encourage volunteerism. Whole areas of the budget were untouched; sacred cows or protected by contracts. It's an upside down world for sure. And remember, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. 'nuff said.
Take care and I hope your health remains strong.
kmDear Community- I sent these remarks to Tracey after the meeting but some of my fellow councillors thought I was accusing them of being narrow minded and that I was belittling them. This was cited as a reason that I do not get support at council.
I pointed out to council, and I want to make sure anyone reading this understands, that I was referring to the decisions and the discussions not the people. The distinction is important. Clearly we all know smart and broadminded people who have made boneheaded decisions.
The other point is more disturbing - support around the council table should be predicated on the merits not the personality or communication style of the one presenting the matter. (In my opinion, of course!) It was suggested that I don't understand the importance of building functional relationships. I do appreciate civil discourse and the lively debate of the issues. I have to admit the relationship part is not the most essential to me. Like family, you don't get to choose the members, you just have to deal with it. I communicate in a direct manner but I think I am generally civil and respectful (but I'm only human and being on council can try one's patience at times).
Anyway...gotta run!
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EDITORIAL: The Rossland Telegraph Wants YOU!
1 week 5 days ago
... it heals again, and with time you will feel better for having contributed your share and, not least of all, because the occasional (meaning more or less frequent) bite makes a valuable contributiion to maturing your thinking and with that the maturing of your thoughts. I do not miss being bitten today (at least I am not aware of any current bits), but I know that, without the bites I have experienced, I would today take Cinderella to be a factual account of history.
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EDITORIAL: The Rossland Telegraph Wants YOU!
1 week 5 days ago
I really hope some one steps up to continue the coverage of council as well the other interesting things that go on around town. Andrew has done a terrific job covering council meetings and our decisons. (It helps that he has a tape recorder so he can get those quotes verbatim). Thank you Andrew for all your efforts over the last couple of years. I wish you well with your farm and family.
It's been said at council meetings that some of the issues in town get blown up because of the Telegraph coverage. In my opinion (just so no one gets the idea that what I say is somehow not my opinion!) that is simply a case of shooting the messenger.
The reality is that the without the investigative efforts of the Telegraph, many issues at city hall would never see the light of day. Yes, one could say there would be no controversy in the mountain kingdom, we could all bask in ignorant bliss, but one could not say our principles of an open and transparent democracy were being well served. Which scenario would you prefer?
Come on somebody! Step up to the plate and take over from Andrew. Council doesn't bite... at least not too hard. :)
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Sustainability Commission funding in flames as museum budget nearly doubles for 2013
1 week 5 days ago
Thanks Andrew for this rundown of the ever-sadder state of decision-making at City Council. Like you, I feel that Rossland's primary strength in attracting young people has been our very progressive approach to community-building. It's why I'm here... Things like the Sustainability Commission and Trails Society have given Rossland a great reputation for leadership in healthy, successful, sustainable community development and have been taken as models and examples of "what works" (in the current day and age) to be celebrated and implemented by other communities. It's very frustrating that the rather oldschool priorities of our current Mayor continue to trump a far more thoughtful, creative, healthy, sustainable and current approach to community development. We need to make a more thoughful electoral decision next time around, folks. ~ Erin


