Skateboard Park at Emcon site meets resistance
'To skate or not to skate' in Rossland may not be the most pertinent question in the campaign to get a skate park built in town. Instead, 'where to skate' and 'where to locate a skate park' seems to be drawing a lot more attention recently.
During its December 14th meeting, council approved the RSA's (Rossland Skate park Association) recommended site in the northwest corner of the Emcon yard for a skate park not to exceed 1400 square meters. Further, council dedicated this site to the Rossland Skate Park association for up to two years in order to allow the RSA to explore and fully leverage funding possibilities. This dedication was the first of what will be a number of steps the RSA will have to undertake before getting final approval from the city to construct the park. A potentially major hurdle to overcome will be getting the approval of neighbors around the Emcon site for the project.
So far, the process has involved a public consultation with area residents at the arena meeting room. The meeting itself was respectful in nature and dialogue has continued between the two groups as they hash out issues and begin solving them where possible.
Recently a petition has been circulating, initiated by neighboring residents to the proposed skate park site, against situating the park in the Emcom lot. That is not to say these resients are anti-skate park. As a neighbor who wished to remain anonymous explained, “We just think there is a better location for the skateboard park. We’re not against it at all. We just think there is better use for that land. Most of the people who live near the site do not want a skate park there.”
The group, which has over 150 signatures on their petition so far, has a number of concerns on about the proposed location. Among their chief concerns are noise created at the site, possible late night partying and whether or not the skate park fits with the OCP and Uptown Station plans.
The group is suggesting other potential locations such as down in Centennial Park, at the Centennial trail-head or perhaps even the opposite corner of the Emcon lot, across from RSS where there are fewer houses nearby. The group will be submitting their petition and sending a delegation to city council in the near future.
An underlying feeling among the group is that they were involved too late in the process and would like to have been consulted by the city or RSA before council made its decision.
Aaron Cosbey, who has been leading the skateboard park charge, understands the neighbors’ concerns. “We will be sending in a recap of the neighborhood meeting to council this week with the recommendation that they not change their original proposal,” explained Cosbey, adding that “the neighbors have a point that the process wasn’t what it could have been leading up to the decision for approval or planning. We have a lot of sympathies with their arguments and their points, so I think we need a more comprehensive process.”
Cosbey's group will be asking council for advice on how to best run the process and may even ask council to get involved. Notes Cosbey, “ The neighbors in that area, while we have good relationships with most of them, are not going to trust us if we are the ones leading a more comprehensive process. So we might need council to step in and lead that process.”
Another concern of residents was a potentially ugly concrete site and the group not following through with their presentation, which shows trees and landscaping. “We presented this beautiful blueprint of what it would all look like and they have asked, “What if you get money to build the park but not do any of the landscaping?” On that particular point and others we’d suggest that council makes it necessary for approval to complete the landscaping things like that to guarantee that we do certain items.”
“It’s been really good. I didn’t know what to expect at the public meeting, but it was very fair and civil. We’re delighted to go through this process and believe it’s essential to have a good airing of the issues. I can’t see a bad outcome from going through this. The final outcome will be a good skate park in a good place.”
Moving forward, RSA will be organizing another meeting for the weekend after Red Mountain closes to bring together all of the people who have said they want to help out, basically everyone who is keen to see a skate park happen in town. “We’ll form into six task forces to start working on all of the areas we need to address, and will keep going on our fundraising,” added Cosbey.
If everything goes according to plan, the RSA hopes to start construction as soon as the summer of 2011.
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Skate Park
As someone who purchased adjacent to the proposed skate park after doing my homework with regards to the proposed use of the Emcon Yard, I am very disappointed with the lack of community input that went into the decision to give this valuable property away. It was my understanding that this area would be used to provide tax revenue for the city while enhancing the appearance of the area and providing some lower priced housing options as well as space for businesses.
After having spoken with some realtors here and in other communities I have been assured that a home in the vicinity of a skate park is not a good candidate for resale. The problem is not so much with the actual look of the skatepark or with the skate boarders, as the people that hang out after hours. It is fine to suggest that the skatepark be closed at 10 pm but without fencing or perhaps even an enclosed building who is going to police and enforce this? Who is going to clean up the broken glass, etc. after the partying is over?
I would like to suggest that we should have a committee of different people from the community looking into every possible site and getting input from all involved, as is currently happening in the city of Trail.
Roof it
Where a skatepark is concerned, an enclosed or semi-enclosed space would be ideal given the snow and rain we get in town; short summer= short season for skateboarders.
Not only would it effectively muzzle early-stage complainants by dampening the noise hugely, an enclosed structure would also create improved possibilities of altering the 'set-up' occasionally; Pouring cement/blacktop etc. is expensive, not that ecologically awesome, and you're married to having the course remain the same for the longterm. As trends come and go in skateboarding (and it is a fickle lifestyle/sport), having a flexible set-up would be a great feature.
Realizing the skatepark association may very well have already looked at this as an option, I'm only hesitantly promoting the idea of roofing the 'park... BUT, it would be a good opportunity to actually involve the end-users in the manifestation of the project; how about erecting one of those pre-fab steel buildings, roof and super-structure only, and using strawbales as the infill? Workshop with the kids (and older skaters- there are a lot of us) on the bale-raising, plastering, etc. Get hands on. You'd end up with something that local elbow grease put together, and a space that contributors have a vested interest in keeping ship-shape, AND a space that effectively addresses the concerns expressed by folks in the local vicinity. Strawbales are highly insulative, make great infill, and there are builders in the region that are able builders and workshop presenters who could consult/present/complete. Throw a roll-top door on the place for hot summer air-flow/venting and you'd have something that could be used year-round, a unique solution for a unique town, something we could point to and be proud of (like the 'Miners Hall, the pool, etc)
Comments?
Given the strength of the
Given the strength of the summer sun nowadays, a roof in the summer doesn't sound like a bad thing, either!--ed.
Other option for RSA?
I am so glad to hear that the RSA is working hard to do something good for the kids in the area. I am wondering if they have considered an indoor skate park- I know that it is more money but given our winters, they really would have a short season to use it. If there was one indoor, it could be used year round and open certain times and the possibilities are endless- jobs for the kids, cashier for the users to pay a small fee, lessons, rentals for birthday parties, jobs for the kids- teaching others, maybe a snack bar.Oh and the climbing wall too! Just an idea!
it's the same old whiners whining....
i am pleased to see how far the RSA has come along in securing an excellent location with the help of the city. this site is obviously well suited to the nature of the activity. it will be close to the highschool and other recreation areas in upper rossland.
what do you think could make those neighbors surrounding the emcon site ever be happy? they complained when hi-rise was in business.... they complain when the city idles their trucks too long... they complain about the lights at the pond hockey being too bright and shining into their living rooms...
wah wah wah.
i happen to live closer to the proposed site than at least 145 of the petitioners and i did not sign. i also know that the welders at hi-rise just wanted to earn a living to stay in this awesome town.
i say give the kids an opportunity, get them off of the square downtown, there are obviously many ways to deter late night partying and noise, and who knows, there just might be some local cash available for the contractors who get the job...
i hope all you petitioners are stoked to create resistance in developing the eyesore that is the emcon lot. because im sure you have already complained to the city about that already....
I am pretty sure the whiners
I am pretty sure the whiners whining were only uspet after they were woken up DAILY during the summer months to a snowmobile beeing started at 6am to be moved into the shop.....that is a little early, especially when you can not get the kids back to bed!! Highrise was amazing and Matt is an amazing guy but he too knows that the noise bylaw starts at 7am.....not 6am. And
for everything else you mentioned....I live close to you and never herd anyone complaining about the other issues!
i think everyone who lives in
i think everyone who lives in Rossland should think about a skatepark in the emcon yard...is it really the right spot?? In a small town like this with very little viable land left do we really want to GIVE it away for a skatepark that really only caters to a small percentage of our kids? We as taxpayers bought that land from emcon to generate revenue....now we are giving a huge piece of it away....can we be fair and make it a park for everyone to use! Yes it is ugly now.....I am not sure how pouring more concrete is going to help with the look. I know that something is going to go in there......the city had a OCP....a plan, maybe we should stick with it! And in the OCP there was no place for a skatepark.....hey if the city is giving away land can I have a chunk?
Actually, I kind of agree
Actually, I kind of agree with you, Pixitrick. I'd like to see it become a green space for everyone to enjoy.
Enron Site
I have to wonder about people who worry that the skatepark might look ugly. It can't be any worse than the gravel lot that is there now. I can sympathize about worries about noise, and in that respect I don't see why the east side of the lot wouldn't be better. A good idea would also be to limit the hours that the park can be used, say not past 10pm. I also agree that the landscaping should be part of the deal, although bearing in mind that trees and bushes don't come in full grown. I haven't seen proposed plans, but earth berms can act as a good sound barrier.
All in all, I hope these issues with local residents can be quickly resolved, this town has waited long enough for a skate park.
I'm also hoping this the beginning of a trend for the use of the Enron lot. Combining the skate park with an outdoor climbing wall and perhaps other active uses would be great to see.
Skateboard park resistance
Your article regarding a local neighborhood groups objection to the use of the former Emcon yard as a proposed skateboard park makes an incorrect statement. It implies that we as a group are suggesting other specific sites in Rossland... we are not. We are, for many reasons, objecting to the former Emcon yard site. We are not suggesting any other specific site in Rossland. Other specific sites are those looked at by the Rossland Skateboard Assc. There are other sites that could be considered outside of those that the RSA zeroed in on, but where ever that is should not be in any objecting neighborhood, period.
Hi Taxpayer, while I did not
Hi Taxpayer, while I did not talk to all 150 people on the petition for comments, the three I did talk to (who wished to remain anonymous) all suggested alternate locations. They also mentioned that the whole group shares their feelings. I would have loved to print more direct quotes from the group which may have better explained that side, however in that situation I decded the best way to present it without outing anyone in particular was to sum up the most referenced thoughts.
It's good to hear your thoughts in this forum and I welcome others to get involved in the dicussion as well. As Aaron poiinted out, when you get the community involved in a discussion on an issue there can be no bad outcome.