GALLERY: Skatepark design unveiled, construction set to begin in 2013

A view from the southwest corner of the proposed skatepark
A view from the southwest corner of the proposed skatepark

The Rossland Skatepark Association (RSA) unveiled their skatepark design to an enthusiastic audience at a public meeting on Monday. Now the RSA has given the go-ahead to design consultant Spectrum Skateparks to make final modifications to the plan and assemble a cost estimate in preparation for the next big push: fundraising.

"It was a good meeting," said the RSA's Robin Strachan. "The design was positively received by all in attendance and we got good direction to go forward with the designer."

The RSA provided drawings to the roughly 20 participants, who were encouraged to make sketches, suggest changes, or write out ideas or comments. RSA board members also circulated the room, talking to people individually, and they passed out a questionnaire to ask whether the design meets the criteria established for the designer in previous public meetings.

"From what we could tell, yes, the design meets the criteria," Strachan said. He added that some useful feedback will be folded into the design: "We'll integrate different features and structures to make things a little more friendly, useful. We're also keeping an eye out for the different demographics, from kids to intermediates to professionals."

On that issue, Strachan was especially happy that a skateboard instructor and youth coordinator from the Castlegar skatepark chose to come and offer advice based on his experiences.

Now the design will close in on its final shape. "We're pretty much there as we are now," Strachan said. "There are likely to be further refinements leading up to actual construction, but the shape, size, and format is what Rossland is looking for."

In the photo gallery below, the design includes elements intended to reflect the heritage of Rossland, particularly the history of the Emcon lot as the old rail yard. "The design uses train tracks, a pole jam made out of train tracks, and the fencing that parallels Washington mimics the look of railway cross-bracing and ties," Strachan explained.

Another element to look out for is the shade structure in the southwest of the park.

"We're working with a couple local folks—Jorge Rivas and Brian Coulter—interested in donating a timber frame shade structure. We're very excited to be able to include that in the design to provide an area protected from rain, to give shade in the afternoon and to try and extend use into 3 and possibly 4 seasons—if people are interested in shovelling out the bowl at certain times of year!"

"More work is required to refine that section," he added.

Other refinements to the actual features will be required because Rossland's skatepark is unique, with elements pulled from other designs. Consequently, some fine-tuning may be required for certain dimensions, such as radius sizes, and specific placement of structures.

"Hopefully we will approach council in August to present the work completed to date and look for their approval of the design. That will start the process to rezone Emcon from light industrial to park space," Strachan said. "We're still working on a timeline to start construction in 2013."

That makes fundraising the next major step. Construction drawings and a detailed budget will be prepared shortly to help focus fundraising efforts on in-kind services and material donations in addition to financial contributions, but Strachan already has a rough idea of what it may cost.

Typically, he said, the complete design and build of a skatepark costs $50 per square foot. The park is about 12,000 square feet, so the total cost could run to $600,000—but that's not likely, Strachan said, because of some savings already realized and other savings he hopes will come along.

"We can quite quickly subtract the cost of design from that," he said. RSA's efforts have already reduced design costs from about $60,000 down to $20,000. The full price would also include contracting out the entire project and paying full market value for goods and services. "We're hoping to cut that number in half,” Strachan said.

Keep an eye out for a finalized sponsorship package that Strachan said the RSA will send out to the community and local businesses to ask for their support and show how that support will be recognized.

Notably absent from the meeting were any detractors. A recent exchange in the Rossland Telegraph's comments suggests some people still oppose the skatepark plan.

"We've tried to be as open as possible throughout the process, including neighbours and people with concerns." Strachan said. "We did our best to inform people ahead of time about meetings and process. We contacted neighbours directly. We put a lot of effort into that, and I feel we've gone over and above the call of duty to include those people's comments and concerns.”

“I'm disappointed someone used the Telegraph as a forum to bring up those concerns because we've gone through a public process and discussed these points," he said.

"I'm very happy to see we've been able to see people come forward and provide support," he added, about the show of support for the RSA that the comments illicited. "It reinforces for me that the community is behind us. It's unfortunate to take a step back and see these comments come through—it's not something we're looking to reopen or address at this time.  Ultimately it comes down to a decision from council to proceed and go ahead with this project.”

The gallery of design pictures below includes topographic maps of the Emcon lot and the skatepark's position on it.

Comments

Anti-skate park???

To set things straight,  I have never been anti-skate park..  To me thats like being anti-ski hill or anti-hockey arena..  

From the outset,  when I attended RSA meetings before it was RSA,  I have been all for a skate park.  I simply have been stating that I Think, they chose the wrong site.  The reasons are written in their own reports.....   Studies, and surveys....  

I am not trying to insult anyone, simply pointing out histories and obvious considerations.  The same ones that were outlined by the RSA them selves.  It is not my first week in town..   

As for meetings and contacting people.   This is a public plot of land that is being given away....   I think that it can be discussed publicly.   As for attending meetings,  I make no excuses.   I also have no desire to attend a tail chasing session, I have been to enough of them. 

I have never been one to encourage closed door discussions..  If this is the "RIGHT,"  then so be it...

Hey Billy, I agree...

 

...online forums are a great place to share information, thoughts, and opinions. They’re also a great place for spreading misinformation based on assumptions. I feel strongly that this is THE site for Rossland to build a skatepark, so I have to help clarify some of your concerns. Acute public outcry seems to make a difference in this town and I’m afraid that you’ll be taken seriously.
 
Neighbour Issues
 
The park in fact has been oriented to deflect sound away from the neighbours, through both the position on the lot and the topography of the skatepark itself. The natural curves featured in the majority of the park are near-silent when ridden, and reflect sound upwards. The park will be built below-grade, and the loudest (flattest) section of park has been positioned as far away from as many neighbours possible, as you can see. The only reason kids won’t be in bed by 8pm is because they are out there shredding!!
 
Adjacent property values will increase after the site is developed, I’m calling it. I don’t know of many neighbourhoods whose property values have dropped when the adjacent industrial brown site is transformed into a multi-use green space and community hub. 
 
Costing you Money
 
The RSA has self-fundraised the entire process to date, and plans to continue fundraising the park to completion. We the taxpayers already have paid for a “giant concrete mass” – now we get to turn all that asphalt into a park. I would hope that funding a community asset of this scale/value wouldn’t be left entirely up to volunteers. Taxes aside, I’ll be contributing dollars with enthusiasm – a $50 personal donation will build 1sq foot of the park. Done deal.
 
Besides, it’s short-sighted to perceive money spent on a skatepark as only being beneficial to a narrow user group. Skateboarders, bikers, scooter-ers, and roller skaters all have many years of good times ahead, but the primary demographic that stands to benefit are our YOUTH. I can’t imagine a better investment in Rossland’s youth (nor is there one – many communities across BC have re-branded their skateparks as “Youth Parks”). Where do kids have locally to turn to when life’s going sideways at home, at school? Riding skateparks is an accessible, affordable, expressive, and limitless sport opportunity. Skateparks give kids confidence, boost their self-esteem, teach discipline, and give their lives focus. And it’s been proven countless times that the best place for them is right beside the local high school.
 
Anti-skatepark advocacy isn’t anything new. Even close to home, in Kaslo, there was strong opposition to the construction of their skatepark in 2006. Everybody's mentality shifted once the park was constructed and people realized what a skatepark actually is.
 
I’m excited to see the development plans for the rest of the site, and look forward to attending more public meetings if I have concerns.

Financial Mystery

I like recreation but I'm having trouble with the financial side of this. There are 3000 people in Rossland. Of that number only about 20% are in the age range where they are likely to skateboard. Of that group, only a fairly small percentage will do so - say 20%. That means there are about 120 potential users. Many are in the age range where they will be working at summer jobs or on holidays at the lake for much of the potential skateboard season.

The construction is proposed at $600,000 (it is rare to see a project come in under budget - they are far more often over budget). That doesn't include the value of the land. Even at that rate the cost is $5000 per user or $200 for every person in town (approx $800 per taxable home). Add another couple of hundred dollars if the value of the land is thrown in. I know it won't be paid in a year but that just adds financing costs on top of everything else.

There will be upkeep especially since our winters are not kind to even cement structures. I would guess that will cost $15,000 per year. There will also be increased insurance liability exposure.

How can this expenditure be reasonable or fair? Where does it sit in the town's priorities? Don't tell me about 'grants'. That is only some other level of government spending my money. We have to be realistic about what a small town can afford in the way of providing recreation for its citizens and especially a small (but vocal) group of them.

Should be plenty of $

There should be plenty of money for Rossland recreation from the savings accrued from not paying for existing "regional" recreation:)

Don't worry....be happy.

You are right...

If we put that with what we save on the sewer and other "regional" expenses we might just have enough... 

Humour me liam

Let's say Rossland has $50 million to build a primary and secondary sewage treatments plants.

Where would you build the plants and where would you dump the treated effluent?

My issue exactly

Swamp filtration systems are out dated and we are putting up primary and secondary treatment systems.....  Gotta love low government standards.. 

There is no effluent as you say in a proper system..  (Effluent) water should be  drinkable and the waste/ biomass is digested and off gased for energy that is used in a biological and heat co-sterilization. 

Such plants are now producing  up to 89% of their own required energy, including heat and electricity.  The process in producing this "sluge" produces the energy and leaves some refinable mass, ammonia's, nitrogens, and phosphorus.  The remaining is dried and used as a fuel source, co-gen plant, pellet stoves you name it...   

Build it below the Golf course and we can pipe the water to who ever is thirsty as it is cleaner than the river...         

All you need is $$$$

Where do you get it?  Not paying for regional sewer won't give you anywhere near the amount you'd need to build from scratch.

Maybe if the regional system....

Decided to do it right and go to the next level with a plant.  Instead of primary and secondary, with an equitable decision and pay process, we would all be into it....  But I am dreaming there.  That was the dream 35 years ago... 

Its not working for anyone right now, we seem to all agree on that...

There is tension

Some within the district want to see the area develop economically and bring in diverse industry and business while others are tentative and with their votes block progress.

None of the partners in the east end can afford mega municipal sewage treatment projects on their own.  Perhaps Trail could but not the bedroom communities around it.  Please don't get your knickers in a knot over this basic reality.

No Comment.

I guess the concensus at the skate park meeting was no more public dialogue.  Take your last little poke in the interview and hide.   

 

So much for open public forum... Wouldn't want any bad press.  It is however a good tacticle move if you want to slip one thru....  

Tactical moves? Huh?

Hi Billy. So far more than 400 people have read this article, and your comment came pretty early on, so I guess no one felt compelled to respond.

I didn't, for example. I felt we've covered the issues thoroughly in our reports and previous commentary.

No one's trying to slip anything through, not that I can see. There have been at least seven public meetings about the skatepark to my knowledge, council has approved the process, and the issues you've raised are not new by any stretch.

If you're looking for a response, perhaps you need to reconsider your tactics? If you strike a chord, I'm sure you'll get people singing your tune...

Or singing back in counterpoint. Quite the exchange you're having with Rose over TALC, for example, very entertaining!

I have yet to see

The link to the study or survey of neighbours and their opinions or concerns.  And how they have been dealt with..

Can I get that??? 

same old.... same old..

 

I guess the consideration of this  committee,  ends at limits of the attendee's  minds.  There are those who cannot attend meetings for all of the happenings,  in the metropolis of Rossvegas.  Yes the name was around long before the board shop.   It is what we used to call Rossland, back when Jon Stansfield led the crusade for a skate park.    You might choose to look up his stats and name the park after him.

 

As I had previously noted before having seen the plans, we are paying for a giant concrete mass laid into central real-estate in Rossland.  Instead of orienting the park in a manner that deflects sound from the above neighbors, it uses them as an amphitheater.  Have fun putting your kids to bed.  at 8 pm. 

 It does however look like the organizing comittee has done a great job in building a skate park..  Looks amazing.  Congrats to that..   If I am to be swayed to give my  bucks to it then please convince me.

1) Other uses of the lot have been considered and the park intergrated into possibilities.  ie:

a) park/ other recreation.. - where the benches, tables, green space, trees, benches, bbq???     benchesnalskdfj

2) Neighbors -  your study recommends 100 plus meters from any neighbor is it that far????       

3) sound control- are the tree's ect in the budget or is that for the city to pay for after the fact.. 

Last I herd this paper was a public forum for people to share.  A  much easier accessed portal than City Hall or public Meetings.  I think we need more open dialogue about issues so things quit slipping by.  Add a public vote on line and people might actually have some access to the issues.    So no I don't apologize for scrutinizing your plans.   I still think its the wrong site.  But it looks great.  

William Profili jr.    not the x-Mayor.