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You make serveral references to our multi-party system. What we have, in reality, is a single party system, specifically a "one-party-at-a-time" system.
Multi party is what we asked for in the STV referendum but were denied because the party in power at the time decide that the referendum would require a 60% yes vote to fairly represent the will of the majority, All we managed was 57%. Mind you, as it concerned the election, 43 percent is more than enough to constitute a majority.
A multi-party system is a system that provides for coalition governments where representatives of several parties need to find a compromise for a decision.
Just because we have more than one party sitting in a legislature or a parliament does not give us a multi-party system, not so long as one party has sole executive power and all the power it needs to impose its will on the legislative branch. Ottawa, particularly now with our very own Newt Gingrich at the helm, provides an excellent example of the irrelevance of political parties save Harper's party. We don't even refer to Canada's federal government by its rightful name anymore, we referred to by the name of The Leader.
The multi-party system I am most familiar with is the one I grew up with, Switzerland. Parliament there is elected by proportional representation, and their constitution limits the executive to 7 cabinet members, with every minister elected (or re-elected) individually by parliament to a four-year term. Switzerland has no prime minister, no premier. The seven work as a collegiate.
There are 11 parties in the parliament (200 seats in total). The 7 cabinet ministers represent four parties. No single party can impose its will or ideology on the legislative or the executive. Political parties have to fight it out, argue it out, and somehow find a compromise acceptable to enough parliamentarians from a variety of parties to get the votes needed to pass anything. That is what I call a multi-party system. If, after all that hagglinbg whatever they come up with is not acceptable to citizens, they have the power to call a binding referendum. Eight referendum decisions per year is not an unusual number, and that is at the national level alone. Add to that canton and municipal referendums, and you can understand why promises by political parties don't mean much.
It is a mistake to equate democracy with free and fair elections. We make a catastrophic mistake when we believe (and act as if) the prize for winning an election is power. Elections in a democracy do not bestow power, they assign responsibility. A democracy's credentials are measured by the institutional arrangements in place to ensure that citizens retain power between elections.
If you really know where to look behind the curtain, Germany has shown the world solar doesn't work, 102 countries now have solar grid parity? There are none, Hawaii with all its annual sunlight hours and high cost of imported energy for electricity cannot make grid parity. So much misinformation, solar electric has a long way to go before its affordable. Why this wasted money keeps being spent on unaffordable solar is astonishing. When technology catches up and solar is affordable, I am all for it, here in Nelson where the sun rarely shines, it will be a long long time before that makes any sense.
Great article. There certainly is a lot of info floating around in the Rossland rumor mill. It seems to me that Red is trying to get the new chair installed this summer. The Summit Lift Company has set up shop in the lower lot and there is a brand new spool of cable, shipped from Switzerland sitting beside the dormant lift.
What is puzzling is that Red planned some kind of announcement for May 31, then retracted, and said to hang on a little longer. Officially they have already said the lift will be installed this summer in press releases (last fall) and in their seasons pass drive (in their newspaper ads they talked about the new terrain).
So what was the official announcement that was to take place on May 31st, and why was it delayed? Was the announcement for something else, such as expanded cat skiing? Perhaps they are trying to secure additional financing?
We won't know for sure until Red confirms their plans, but it would make sense for them to at least give some kind of update as to what is happening.
Hi Ken
You know I value your input on this stuff. But I will rebut a couple of your points.
You argue that people should cut energy use because they want to, and not because they have access to taxpayer-funded subsidies. And you imply that a $1.6 million expenditure to save 1.4% of Rossland's greenhouse gas emissions is a bad investment of taxpayer dollars.
You know, because you and I have talked about this, that the final figures aren't out for the Energy Diet's first phase. So we don't know whether it really was $1.6 million invested and 340 tonnes saved. I'm skeptical, but let's assume for the sake of argument that those estimates are right.
The $1.6 million gets you a lot more than 340 tonnes. In terms of GHG emissions it gets you that much every year until the repairs fail or the house falls down. In terms of payback, if the investments are typical it will save homeowners enough in energy bills to pay off the investment in less than 10 years. In terms of local employment for contractors etc., well $1.6 million has huge impacts.
So the only question is: is it legitimate for the government to spend money on those things? Well, some of the money actually came from Fortis, not the government, and they have a legislated mandate to save power rather than build more costly new capacity, so that's a good use of ratepayer money. Some of it came from government, though. And yes, maybe you can argue that the government should not be paying to lower my power bill (though it should be paying to lower bills for low-income homeowners - a focus of the energy diet phase II). But can you argue that government has no business addressing climate change? Or addressing regional economic development?
When the final figures do come out we can have an informed discussion. But for now, at the level of principle, we disagree on your assessment of the energy diet.
BTW, I plead guilty on the "fattest energy town in BC" thing. But I don't think we ever said that, did we? Pretty sure that was a reporter's wording, though I could be wrong.
Cheers,
Aaron
Whereas, a top level predator like a cougar represents a pinnacle accomplishment of intact ecosystems;
Therefore requires compensation offsetting the damage in removing a complex and valued animal from from this system;
In that, ecosystem damage is already measured and compensated through carbon offset funds; it follows that wildlife losses, from direct human intervention, are debts owing to carbon offsets.
Further a fee structure needs to be added, to every municipal carbon ledger, recording animal dispatches with rate according to species, age, gender and health of animal.
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Carbon Offset Bill
Regional District of Central Kootenay
May 2013
For, three young male cougars killed in Robson. $12,500/ea
Total bill $37,500 of Carbon Offsets,
Due in 2013 for this instance.
Adrian Dix was not the right leader for the NDP. He had very little in the way of compaign piz-zaz that a public leader desperately needs. The heading bobbing, swaggering gate that Dix put forth when stepping off a bus or walking onto a stage was a turn off to say the least. He was not a good speaker nor was he an in the trench warrior that is needed from a leader of a political party.
The Liberals were a dead horse by way of their history in this province. From the devistation done to the forest industry, to the pawning off the tax collection dirty work to the municipalities any other NDP leader could have buried Christy Clarke's, Liberals. Non of the above was mentioned throughout the entire election. The NDP campaign was soft and non-confratational right from the very beginning. Politics is a no holds barred competition where the winner takes all. Adrian Dix was not a slap back leader. A leader who demonstrates meekness will and did kill a political party.
Like her or not, Christy Clarke won every round throughout the campaign.
Here's a link to the back story on this. More to follow next week.
Murray makes some excellent points, but deep down inside he is still an NDP-er, and it clouds his judgement. This is the 5th election in a row which the NDP has lost, and they need to face the deeper truth: the days where the coalition of social progressives and unionists could win elections are gone. And no wonder, the party has not had a fresh idea since the days of Tommy Douglas, has no compelling vision for the future, is no more than a 'Liberal light' option for BC voters. But the arrogance of their supposed 'ownership' of progressive voters continues; the numerous attempts at cooperation by the Green Party waved away with disdain.
Perhaps after this devastating loss a little humility will creep past the armour of arrogance and union dollars. But I am not holding my breath. They didn't learn a thing from their previous 4 election losses, and most likely the roadblock to progressive government will just continue to do the only thing they do well: lose election after election after election.
I like roses and I would definitely plan to come to see this paradise of roses. It is really great good to see and know that the vegetables and roses are growing under the same roof.
colocation
...with a date! The poet will perform on Wednesday, May 29 at 7pm. If you see only one poet this year...make it Shane!
IT NEVER FAILS TO AMAZE ME THAT THE 99% HAVE A HATE FOR CORPORATIONS OR THE 1% AND YET DISPROVE IT BY PUTTING IN A GOVERNMENT FINANCED BY BIG CORPORATIONS!!!! TELL ME PLEASE WHERE ARE THE BRAINS OF THE 99% AT ELECTION TIME?
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...That is not the question.
When asked about their fondest dream, how often will people (often yonger ones) quickly declare "Peace on Earth"... however they can't even make peace with their brother and sisters.
The statu quo... the way that the senate is used is not an option. It might be very useful to reform or even abolish the senate. However this is almost like the pie in the sky dream of peace on earth.
Practically we should look at what is the main goal of that institution: "A sober second thought".
This means that all the senators should be only senators. It is inconceavable that the senate would just be a pale copy of the house of commons with the grouping of the participants under the same political banners.
A Senator should be a totally impartial person whose judgement will not be tainted by a close association to any political party.
A Senator should not be allowed to participate in any overt political activity (fund raising, campaining).
A Senator should be focussing only on giving a "sober, impartial, fair, second thought".
The lack of total, primordial and blind commitment to the political views of any political party, might make it less probable that some decisions will be so devoid of common sense. That truth will be distorded to make it fit as neatly as possible with the views of a policitical party.
That a few senators abused the system with an unshakable sense of entitlement is not surprising. To have received their posting, most of the senators have the type of connections at the upper level that is a fertile ground for that sense of entitlement.
This is not the major issue. The major issue is the interpretation of the facts or distorsion of reality to prove their point of view. The political parties who are given these free munitions to annoy the currently guilty party, are much busier at making as much political mileage of the situation as to get at the source of the problem. And of course the guilty party will do anything to make the problem go away while providing as little ammunitions as possible to the other parties.
With STV dead and gone maybe reform of referendums might provide more depth to democracy and participation.
A tiny detail on the double majority, it is not 60%, it is "more than 50%". The real catch, however, is that this percentage is calculated on "the total number of registered voters in British Columbia", and the double majority aspect requires that "more than 50% of registered voters for each of at least 2/3 of the electoral districts in British Columbia" vote in favour of an initiative.
If that standard - more than 50% of registered voters for each of at least 2/3 of the electoral districts - were to be applied to form a majority government, we would never again see a majority government in this province.
That statute is a farce, a cynical and malicious one at that.
Andre, the goverment pulled a fast one on the "HST" referendum by ignoring the 60% double majority any government requires for a referendum.
STV was lost through by the misinformation campaign run by the "NO" side and Bill Tieleman. Tieleman convince everyone they couldn't understand arithmethic.
Tieleman is NDP progeny.
The only party that chose a position during STV were the Greens. Their endorsement probably didn't help: characterising STV as a fringe cause.
STV would was been a huge improvement. Sad.
Thanks, David. I'd like to add that our current mayor and councillors might well pass the vetting process you mention. Most people who run at the municipal level are just trying to be good citizens and take a lot of flack (much of it from the Telegraph here in Rossland!).
But I agree that we'd all benefit from the widest array of candidates possible.--ed.
I have a picture that I took on Kirkup early May. It is a single set of ski tracks dissappearing towards the top of Kirkup. It is obvious from the tracks that there was about 50 cm of beautiful snow. When I looked back at the date of that picture I could see that I made those tracks in May.
Pitty that I can't attach it here
I much agree Adrian.
There are many problems with the system, and I think the primary one is the way our "leaders" are chosen.
As in every riding, there are a few deidicated souls, some sincere, some for ulterior motives, who join a particular local party, who then chose a leader among themselves.
Then we are left to choose from one of those selected by each party.
Doesn't makes sense. Like I always say, there are elected officials, and then there are community leaders.
It's normal in any community for certain people to gain the respect of the others, and the community would normally accept assigning them certain responsibiltieis on behalf of the others.
But in our current "democracy" we have no system for moving those people respected by the community into positions of authority.
Instead, we have a few people who feel entitled to self-appoint themselves to run for office. In very rare cases, that's a good thing. But most of the time, those candicates have only been vetted by the handful in their own party, not the community as a whole.
I think it's time we reinvented the process by which we choose who will represent us.
I think to start with, for the next municipal election in Rossland, we should gather committees that would make proposals of who they consider most qualitfied for City Council, and ask them to run.
I firmly believe that most often, the best people to represent others tend to be too humble to step forward. And that's a good quality.
It should be the community's job to make our choice known to a certain candidate, and encourage them to run on our behalf.
Then the community can come out and vote and confirm which they think are ultimately the best choices.
We had a chance at "a little propoertional representation" and the first time around a clear majority (not a first-past-the-post majority, but nearly 58% of the votes cast) was in support of it.
But the government, elected with 40-some percent of the popular vote, used its parliamentary majority to insist that, for referendum purposes, majority meant not 40% but 60%. So we did not get STV on the first crack. In its benevolence the government gave us a second shot at it and the second time around an overwhelming majority voted to maintain the status quo. And that's what we have today.
We could have changed it, but making a change would have meant trying something new, something different, and that would be ... un-Canadian?
I've got no love for the Liberals—zero—but the map's pretty clear that whoever it was who came out to the polls in BC's rural interior, with the exception of our pocket in the southeast, they were swinging hard for the Liberals. Big, fat, money-grubbing, resource-sucking, democracy-deaf red all over the place...
A little proportional representation would go a long way towards dealing with tiny margins that turn into hefty majorities, and it might inspire more people to vote too.
I'm surprised to see the math and learn that the margin was less than 5%.
What were they in 2009?
My own philosophy is that if the Liberals dont start to acknowledge rural BC, we need to stop sending them money.
To win with 50 seats and 30 of them within commute of Stanley Park tells the story. The rest of the province is beyond Hope.
Is it any wonder they don't hear us? They don't need us. We just don't matter.
Perhaps the Kootenays need to become the 11th province and the Northwest coast number 12.
They didn't close any hospitals in Surrey or Abbotsford.
Every time I go to see a doctor in Vancouver, it's like a $1000 tax for living where I do.
Valid points, Sjeng. But how do you square the circle of knowing a candidate based on the policies advocated by the party under whose banner she is running, when that same candidate, after being elected, is free to take a position at odds with that promoted by the party?
An example of that was the dilemma created for the Conservative candidate in the Skeena riding. The Conservative Party supported Enbridge's Northern Gateway project, but their local candidate stated his opposition to it. When questioned by local media, his explanation was that under the policies of his party, elected representatives would have the freedom to represent their constituents when that position is in conflict with the party's stand (I don't know, but I must assume that he was not lying).
So, pro or con Northern Gateway, how does a voter determine which way a vote will be cast on D-Day? How does an elected MLA determine what her constituents want, after the election, if not by referendum?
I expect that if Rousseau was around today he would recognize that political parties can have a useful function in our democracy. We cannot all know our representatives personally, so it helps to identify the kind of policies a candidate will likely support by looking at the political party of which they are a member.
I believe that our democracy is not dysfunctional because of political parties per se, but because of the extreme party discipline our elected members accept from their parties. The discipline is so extreme that the last time a piece of government legislation was defeated in BC was...1953. Members can not represent their ridings under such a system of forced conformism, where party hacks, not the elected representatives, make all voting decisions.
The Green Party around the world share the same set of core principles, but one deeply held belief is that representatives must always put the interests of their constituents first, even if that means going against Green Party policy. So when people vote Green, they know that they vote for someone who believes in a set of humanistic and environmental principles, but they also know that they vote for a representative who will not be subjected to party bullying, a representative who will actually represent..
Agree or disagree, it is a fundamentally different way of doing democracy.